Why is the shroud of turin still a mystery
Why is the Shroud of Turin still a Mystery?
considering the abundant evidence on the
Shroud of Turin why is it not more
widely known how does the secular world
account for its existence your
information on the subject is great but
I haven't heard much about the Shroud
elsewhere not even this is always
interesting not even in Catholic circles
thank you and this is Patrick from
Kentucky a great question Patrick to be
frank there is one principal reason why
the Shroud kind of fell off the radar
screen and that was in 1988 there was a
carbon-dating that was done by three
reputable labs one at Oxford one in
Zurich and one at in Phoenix Arizona and
when those tests were done it was
revealed that the Shroud had been
produced probably in the 15th century
now of course I was one of the people
who suckered for this 100% I you know I
thought these are three reputable labs
the people who take took the sample must
have been reputable I gave my assent
over now I had been a fan of the Shroud
prior to 1988 had been following the
stirrup investigation the Shroud of
Turin research project the big 1978
investigation of volumes and volumes of
data that were produced and then in 1988
I was mind blown I just couldn't believe
it because the reputation you know was
so strong for the Shroud of Turin
however I found out about 15 years later
so this I mean in 1998 already it was
known that the Strand the single strand
that was taken for that 1988 testing
that strand was very defective and the
reason was it was taken first of all
from a very problematic part of the
cloth it was a corner of the cloth that
had been visibly patched later in the
15th century by sisters that were trying
to patch the cloth and put a back cloth
on the linen after the fire of char nein
so of chambre excuse me and and when
that happened you know these these
fibers were woven into it
now what was found out later this is
probably in 1998 sue Benford and other
people actually showed that this part of
the cloth it was highly controversial
the second thing is they were supposed
to take seven different samples from
seven parts of the cloth and have them
tested by a pyrokinesis expert and a
materials expert before it that the
samples were actually sent in to make
sure that they belong to the linen none
of that was done a single thread from a
highly controversial corner of the cloth
was taken it was split into three parts
and then sent to the three reputable
labs or of course they get the result of
the 15th century however when sue
Benford did her reporting then a group
of the physicists who had been working
on it and especially this fellow dr. ray
Raymond Rogers and he was really a
physical chemist and a thermal chemical
expert you know and he basically was
able by locating where that the sample
was taken from in the 1988 invading they
had cameras on the clock I could see
precisely where it was taken from he
then got fibrils from the cloth that
were taken in 1978 from the exact same
spots he then took those five rolls and
identified the following three well
problems first of all he subjected those
fibrils that were taken from the exact
same spot
he subjected it to several different
thermal chemical tests and he elucidates
every single one that he put it through
but at the end of you know that the
spectrometry the pyrokinesis etcetera
when all the tests are completed it's
very very clear that the sample that was
taken
would not have possibly been from the
original linen first of all the sample
that was taken would have had cotton in
it it wasn't any cotton at the time of
Jesus and certainly there wasn't any
dyed cotton and certainly not any dyed
cotton that used a gum die mordant
which only came into Europe in the 11th
century so for all intents and purposes
the sample right which would have had
cotton dye and a Morton to tie the dye
to the to the cotton that wasn't
available until Europe much later this
couldn't have come from the original
linen and the cloth by the way is not
cotton of course it is linen and it's a
linen that corresponds to the kind that
in the and the twill and the weave that
would have been available during the
time of Jesus so at the end ray Rogers
and then of course a variety of other
chemists and physicists since that time
have already discredited the 1988 carbon
dating sample not the dating itself that
was done off anyway but the sample
itself was clearly you know a you know a
sample that was almost I can't say it
was intentionally designed to deceive
but it came as close as you can possibly
get to intentionally designing people
over time but like I said I didn't even
discover this myself until 2004 right so
I was way behind the times and and and
so I think all of us really suckered for
this dating and now we just got to
change all that because there's been
four other dating tests and a variety of
other things that we'll talk about later
that show that the Shroud is really
created around 50 ad
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