Why is the rock not in fast 9
Vin Diesel Is The Reason The Rock Isn't In Fast And Furious 9
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you can't spell The Fast and the Furious
franchise without furious and that's
exactly how these two stars feel about
each other
Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson just
couldn't get along when they work
together and it may have affected the
fate of the franchise don't talk like
that
but why is there so much animosity
between them is that even street racing
and over-the-top action sequences can't
cheer them up we'll talk about the real
reason the rock isn't going to be an f9
and whether he and Vin Diesel will ever
share a screen again I was hoping you'd
say that
on the surface it's hard to imagine why
Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson wouldn't
be friends or at the very least co-stars
surely they'd be able to bond over their
undoubtably intense workout routines and
share their secrets to getting their
heads so silky smooth but alas Vin
Diesel went ahead and disapproved our
theory that everyone likes the rock in
order to understand just what went wrong
between these two we need to look at
where they were at the first time they
got together on a movie set I don't
remember him
the Vin Diesel grew up as a big Dungeons
& Dragons loving nerd and we say that
term with all due love affection and to
be honest no small amount of solidarity
he discovered a refuge in theater and
struggled to get his big break as an
actor in Hollywood Diesel always
believed that he was destined to be a
movie star but his conviction took quite
a while to come true but when it did boy
oh boy it seemed like he was in every
single action movie for a while although
he clearly wasn't hurting for work he
became known for his involvement in the
Fast and the Furious franchise and the
fact that he wasn't in the widely panned
too fast too furious just showed how
invaluable he and his character Dom
Toretto is to the movies finally diesel
had found his niche and achieved a level
of success he always believed himself
capable of not only that but he became
close with his co-stars particularly
Paul Walker tragically Walker perished
in an unrelated car accident while
filming Furious 7 and then we have
Dwayne Johnson and while we are not
going to try to quantify who had an
easier time of becoming famous he was
already a big name by the time he
appeared in the franchise everyone knew
him as the rock his wrestling persona
but he
eager to make a name for himself as an
actor when he found his way into the
Fast & Furious franchise refine the
profession even the most ardent fans
have to admit that some of the movies
are certainly better than others and by
the time Fast Five came around the
public's interest in the franchise was
waning so Dwayne Johnson came in to save
the day and was widely credited with
renewing everyone's interest and saving
the franchise as you can imagine that
did not go over well with Vin Diesel who
was once the person credited with its
success there were tons of rumors
swirling around that Diesel was
resentful of Johnson's swooping in to
save the day and that the two of them
just couldn't get along behind the
scenes fans heard that Johnson was
frequently late to set while Diesel's
ego often got in the way of producing
the movie supposedly the two were
frequently arguing with one another and
by the time the fate of the Furious
rolled around they refused to film
scenes together now these kinds of
Hollywood rumors are a dime a dozen
but don't dismiss them so easily both
diesel and Johnson have made comments
revealing that there's definitely some
truth to these allegations and these
comments were not subtle although he
didn't name names Johnson once posted on
Instagram quote some conduct themselves
as stand-up men and true professionals
while others don't end quote
at least that's the only portion of the
post we can include in this video due to
some colorful language yeah he added
that in many of the scenes where his
character is acting angry that's not
acting it doesn't take a detective to
figure out he was clearly talking about
Vin Diesel TMZ reported that these
social media posts prompted a meeting
between the two stars who made a valiant
attempt to squash the beef between them
supposedly tensions were so high on set
that the cast was struggling to complete
their scenes although we can't say what
happened during the meeting a couple of
days later Johnson made a post about
family having different beliefs and how
conflict can sometimes be a good thing
that leads to greater understanding but
apparently it wasn't as peaceful as it
appeared a few days later he made a post
specifically thanking everyone in the
fast family except fervent diesel
Michelle Rodriguez who plays Letty Ortiz
confirmed that the
two stars feuded while working on the
franchise during an interview with
People magazine but she made it clear
that she wanted to stay out of the drama
despite this many fans got the
impression that the majority of the cast
was firmly on diesel side Tyrese Gibson
and Ludacris shared photos of themselves
with diesel while they were working on
the fate of the furious Gibson even
wrote a post talking about how his
relationship with diesel made him a
better man and father and has been a
huge source of strength he added that he
wished people knew just how hard diesel
worked on the franchise and how much of
his heat he put into the project
Ludacris didn't caption his pic with
anything juicy but he did obviously
share a cast photo that excluded Johnson
Dwayne Johnson said that he believed the
issues between himself and diesel helped
to the franchise since it got people
talking about it where these fast and
furious co-stars just trying to add fuel
to the fire or was there a real schism
at play here
that's not possible eventually even
diesel weighed in on it although he
chose his language much more carefully
than Johnson during an interview with
USA Today
he stated that in a weird way he and
Johnson are actually pretty close
however he described their relationship
as difficult since they're both alphas
he admitted that some things may have
been blown out of proportion and at the
time he felt Johnson didn't appreciate
all the hard work he had put into the
franchise at one point he posted a video
on Instagram during which he promised to
spill all of the tea regarding the
situation with Johnson but unfortunately
for drama loving fans that never
happened overall it was definitely
Johnson who blatantly weighed in on the
situation although he did agree with
diesel on some points Johnson echoed a
similar sentiment to Entertainment
Tonight admitting that they had
different philosophies he confirmed what
many had suspected which was that he and
diesel didn't film any scenes together
when working on the fate of the furious
Johnson also came clean about the
confrontation TMZ had reported on and
admitted that it did happen and was
important he said that this interaction
made it clear that he and diesel simply
have fundamental differences between
them regarding the way they approach
moviemaking and collaborating Johnson
said that regardless of whether they
ever share screen time again he's
grateful for the clarity they achieved
through their discussions so it's safe
to say that they
were downright ugly on the set of the
fate of the Furious even though the cast
and crew got through it and talks were
had it was clear that Johnson working
apart from the rest of the crew would be
a much better idea that's the reason we
ended up with the Fast and Furious
spin-off Hobson Shaw
not only was diesel not in the movie but
Johnson had the opportunity to be one of
the producers himself but we got rid of
that fun sponge we get to work but not
everyone was happy about Johnson still
being involved in the franchise even if
he wasn't sharing screen time with Vin
Diesel Tyrese Gibson stepped up his
social media posting and this time he
didn't settle for being vague or just
hyping up his respect for diesel he
straight up said that he would not be
open to returning for a ninth Fast &
Furious movie if Johnson was in any way
involved he called Johnson a clown and
invited him to spin off a part of his
Anatomy we can't mention on this channel
the post also included some allegations
of the rock threatening his relationship
with his daughter so let's explain that
at the time Gibson was involved in a
serious custody battle over his then
ten-year-old daughter Shayla
on a photo of himself and director Lee
Daniels he accused Johnson of pitching
the idea of Hobbes and Shaw and signed
on to the project without considering
the rest of the cast
according to Gibson he was hoping for
income from the franchise to help pay
his legal fees and was furious about
Johnson going off on his own he even
posted an emotional video claiming that
he had privately asked to Johnson not to
proceed with Hobbes and Shaw because of
how it would impact the rest of the cast
Gibson called Johnson a selfish champ
and accused him of completely lacking
compassion so it's clear that Ben diesel
and Dwayne Johnson working together
didn't go well it also seems like a lot
of cast members had issues with Johnson
or at the very least felt more loyalty
towards diesel Gibson apparently
believed that if the Hobbs and Shaw
spin-off didn't happen we would have
seen a ninth Fast & Furious movie much
earlier but we have no way of knowing if
that's true as to whether or not it was
selfish of Johnson to accept the role
well we'll let you come to your own
conclusions on that why the hell would
you create something like that but let's
not forget about the fate of the Furious
for a minute and talk about the fate of
the franchise we all know that the movie
f9 is finally coming out and that Dwayne
Johnson's character is not going to be
making an appearance by this point the
video
hopefully you've figured out why but
what about the few well these two ever
work together in the future and have we
seen the last of Hobbs after Hobbs and
Shah wrapped up filming Johnson posted a
video of himself thanking his fans and
co-stars and giving a shout-out to Vin
Diesel he called him brother VIN and
thanked him for supporting the movie it
seemed to be a genuinely heartfelt
message and Johnson thanked diesel for
inviting him into the franchise and said
that he hoped his involvement had helped
elevate it we already know that there
will be a tenth Fast & Furious movie
although details are sparse at the
moment according to Diesel he's been
planning it since before production
began on f9 we know that Johnson isn't
in f9 but it remains to be seen if he
will be involved in the final film after
all the drama has definitely cooled down
since it started but it seems like
diesel and Johnson just have fundamental
differences that make working together
difficult and many fans doubt that's
something that will ever change Plus
diesel has said that there will be more
spin-offs including one with a female
lead character it's possible that while
Johnson won't appear in f9 we will get
to see him in the Fast and Furious
universe again fans of the franchise
will just have to wait to find out what
do you think about the feud between
these two stars are you hoping to see
their characters interact in a future
movie or are you fine with them staying
far apart let us know what you think in
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